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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Seeded page&lt;/p&gt;
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==Meeting Minutes 14 Dec 2013==&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting Begins at 14:26&lt;br /&gt;
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'''19''' members present&lt;br /&gt;
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Minutes taken - Matt&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Chairman''' - Jim Akeson&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Directors Present:''' Jim Akeson, Kevin Loney, Shannon Hoover&lt;br /&gt;
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==Finances==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''14:27 - Christine Akeson'''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Christine has finished putting all finances into Quickbooks&lt;br /&gt;
** Siobhan Crothers will now be updating members spreadsheet regularly&lt;br /&gt;
* Monthly/Quarterly statements are now easy&lt;br /&gt;
* Finance info soon will be on Google Drive folder for all members&lt;br /&gt;
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* We are cash-flow positive, but close. Some months ahead some behind. Close enough that donation bin is the difference.&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;$700/month in the positive&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; '''CORRECTION - Jim mispoke, we are actually close to zero'''&lt;br /&gt;
** '''Actual Financial Status = just barely staying afloat. Have a mild sense of paranoia about our stability'''&lt;br /&gt;
* Square reader (credit card payments for dues/etc from any smartphone) is now available at the space&lt;br /&gt;
** Directors aren't the only ones who can accept payments anymore&lt;br /&gt;
* Concern noted regarding earmarked donations (for Tormach, Laser, etc) appearing as generic donation income (change bin, recycling, fundraisers, etc), and giving us false impression of profitability&lt;br /&gt;
** Some confusion as to what does or doesn't count as what on spreadsheets&lt;br /&gt;
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'''14:34 - Jim Akeson'''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Kevin Loney &amp;amp; Jim applied for Protospace credit card&lt;br /&gt;
** $2000 limit&lt;br /&gt;
** Used for purchases/expenses directly rather than via reimbursement to members&lt;br /&gt;
** Will be paid off every month, not used as a source of borrowing&lt;br /&gt;
** Will allow Protospace to establish a credit history, get better rates on many things&lt;br /&gt;
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==Space in the Space==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''14:35 - Jim'''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Space is a mess&lt;br /&gt;
* People who are cleaning up and organizing need more help&lt;br /&gt;
* Space was clean but then plasma cutting table arrived&lt;br /&gt;
* Dave Bynoe &amp;amp; Janet Mader have begun labeling / color coding some tools&lt;br /&gt;
* Reminder that tools painted yellow belong in lathe area&lt;br /&gt;
* People encouraged to please clean up, at the very least&lt;br /&gt;
* Please step up to help for infrastructure projects if available, give back to the community&lt;br /&gt;
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* Pick &amp;amp; Place&lt;br /&gt;
** Looking for somewhere to store it until commercial makerspace is up and running&lt;br /&gt;
** About 2 year timeline&lt;br /&gt;
** Dave Hrynkiw (Solarbotics) does not want us to throw it away, wants it to remain for maker use, will take it back if he must&lt;br /&gt;
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* Anyone wanting to scrap metal, can go into orange bin at far end of parking lot that belongs to Media Resources&lt;br /&gt;
** Metal can also be taken&lt;br /&gt;
** Nothing is allowed to be left hanging over the edge or protruding over the top, be respectful and responsible&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commercial Makerspace==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''14:40 - Shannon'''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Separate entity from Protospace&lt;br /&gt;
* Approximately 2 years before opening&lt;br /&gt;
* 30,000 square feet target (~10x the size of Protospace)&lt;br /&gt;
* ~$150/month member fees estimate&lt;br /&gt;
* Reliable, professional, maintained equipment&lt;br /&gt;
* Generally for commercial/light manufacturing efforts&lt;br /&gt;
* To develop a larger community so many organizations benefit&lt;br /&gt;
* Partnerships with many other organizations (Beakerhead, Innovate YYC)&lt;br /&gt;
* $3,000,000 in funding to get started&lt;br /&gt;
* Industrial woodworking tools are looking for a new home, ideally there, Protospace does not have space, power, or training to run them&lt;br /&gt;
* Wood Shaper, Planer, and Jointer are currently at Protospace. Tablesaw, HVAC, other equipment being held as a courtesy in another vacant bay.&lt;br /&gt;
** Safeway Holdings (landlord) wants them gone in a couple months, these need a new home. Speak up if you know somewhere they can be housed or used temporarily by the maker community until the comercial space opens&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Protospace Location Option (moving)==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''14:45 - Jim'''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Issue===&lt;br /&gt;
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* We have lots of new equipment, are still growing, are already out of space&lt;br /&gt;
* ~4 more years on lease (of a 5 year lease)&lt;br /&gt;
* Moving to a new location with same landlord is possible&lt;br /&gt;
* A bay 2 doors down (same building) is available&lt;br /&gt;
** The one behind where our dumpster is&lt;br /&gt;
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===Comparison of Spaces===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Space_Compare_Sketch.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Does not include red or orange areas&lt;br /&gt;
* Not to scale&lt;br /&gt;
* Internal walls are drawn a bit wrong&lt;br /&gt;
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====Current Space====&lt;br /&gt;
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* 3500 sqf total (2600 sqf footprint)&lt;br /&gt;
** 1700 sqf shop space&lt;br /&gt;
** 900 sqf lower floor offices&lt;br /&gt;
** additional 900 sqf upper offices&lt;br /&gt;
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* Narrow bay entrance due to 10'x10' cutout&lt;br /&gt;
* Upstairs/office are secluded from shop space&lt;br /&gt;
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====New Space====&lt;br /&gt;
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* 4400 sqf total (4400 square feet footprint)&lt;br /&gt;
** 2600 sqf full height shop space (yellow in sketch)&lt;br /&gt;
** ~1800 sqf in lower floor offices/bathrooms (1.5 bays [45 feet] wide)&lt;br /&gt;
** No upper floor (separate entrance, other tenants)&lt;br /&gt;
** Additional expansion rooms available for extra cost (orange in sketch), but not part of this agreement&lt;br /&gt;
** Does not include staircase or entrance, no access (red in sketch, upper floor tenants)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Upstairs tenants will not have access to our space or entrances either&lt;br /&gt;
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Constraints&lt;br /&gt;
* Shop floor (yellow in sketch) can be loud (tools / music)&lt;br /&gt;
* Area below other tenants cannot be very loud, also, they do work odd hours sometimes&lt;br /&gt;
** Area will likely be used for storage, 3d printing, laser, lounge, quiet areas anyway, not shop tools&lt;br /&gt;
** Jim has suggested upstairs tenants be given big red bash button that will sound a short siren and flash red light, as a courtesy knock to alert us to please be quieter when necessary&lt;br /&gt;
* Walls at back of bay (top of yellow in sketch) are open ceiling, and removable&lt;br /&gt;
* Lower floor offices are accessible via separate entrance, and have internal bay door to open to shop floor, does not feel closed off&lt;br /&gt;
* Offices have superb HVAC, formerly commercial soldering done there&lt;br /&gt;
* Future expansion areas (in orange on sketch) have two sets of double doors, also do not feel closed off when doors are open&lt;br /&gt;
** Proposed area to generate funds by renting, or hosting events/workshops&lt;br /&gt;
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====Rental Changes====&lt;br /&gt;
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* Current location rent '''$2500''' including op costs, not including utilities&lt;br /&gt;
* Proposed location rent '''$3000''' including op costs, not including utilities&lt;br /&gt;
** For the first 6 months, rent will only be '''$2800''' ($300 increase) + utilities, to allow us time to grow membership&lt;br /&gt;
* Current rent price is $7/sqf, with increase to $8/sqf in year 4, and to $9/sqf in year 5 of the lease (currently starting year 2)&lt;br /&gt;
** During years 4 &amp;amp; 5, rent will reflect total floorspace occupied (4400), not just the +$500 difference&lt;br /&gt;
*** (Roughly '''$4800 [$1800 increase]''' for year 4, and '''$5400 [$2400 total increase]''' for year 5 - ''Matt's numbers added after meeting'')&lt;br /&gt;
**** With current space, the lease we signed when we moved here says prices will increase to '''$2900 ($400 increase)''' and '''$3200 ($700 total increase)''' respectively - ''Matt's numbers added after meeting''&lt;br /&gt;
*** Many people find this ridiculous, since the expanded space is double-billed with upstairs tenants, we do not get the full 25' ceiling. Half that amount at most would be fair.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Larger spaces should be cheaper per square foot than smaller ones, the proposed lease does not reflect this&lt;br /&gt;
*** Proposed new space has been unrentable for 5 years, is a low value property, current location is more rentable&lt;br /&gt;
*** Suggested clarifying that these were the numbers and deal offered&lt;br /&gt;
* Negotiations are early and continuing&lt;br /&gt;
** Robb and Jim are leading this effort&lt;br /&gt;
* Question about how the decision will be made to move or not&lt;br /&gt;
** Membership issue, whole membership will decide&lt;br /&gt;
** Reiterating, this is not a decision directors make&lt;br /&gt;
* Decision will have to be made soon, probably at next member's meeting in early Jan.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Directorship Duties / Burnout==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''15:05 - Jim'''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Directors are overworked&lt;br /&gt;
** Mike Belanger resigned soon after being elected&lt;br /&gt;
** John Jardine is out of the country&lt;br /&gt;
** Shannon Hoover serves as an ambassador, not an administrator&lt;br /&gt;
** Needing at least one more active director, as Kevin &amp;amp; Jim are burning out&lt;br /&gt;
* Directors are also some of our busiest volunteers doing non-directorial volunteer work too&lt;br /&gt;
* Directors can be appointed by quorum of Directors. Paragraph 38 of Articles of Association document. &amp;quot;38. The directors shall have power at any time, and from time to time, to appoint a person as an additional director.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
** Janet Mader volunteered to be a Director&lt;br /&gt;
** Members were asked for approval or dissent (non-requisite &amp;amp; non-binding)&lt;br /&gt;
** No dissent voiced from Membership&lt;br /&gt;
** Directors have appointed Janet Mader as a Director&lt;br /&gt;
*** Members are thankful to Janet for stepping up to take on official duties and responsibilities&lt;br /&gt;
**** (Hint - Say thank you in person to her, and your other directors who are burning out)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tormach (mill)==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''15:10 - Jim'''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tormach is nearly paid for&lt;br /&gt;
* Will be paid out and the last $300 raised in person to ease paperwork&lt;br /&gt;
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==Manual Metal Mill==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''15:15 - Mike Morrow'''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Volunteered to clean up/fix up new big manual mill donated by Kyle&lt;br /&gt;
* Also new large air compressor will be wired to a plug, not hardwired&lt;br /&gt;
** Just waiting on someone to do it&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pay Your Dues==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''15:19 - Kevin'''&lt;br /&gt;
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* Have you paid your dues?&lt;br /&gt;
** Then go pay your dues&lt;br /&gt;
*** Pay some extra dues if you can&lt;br /&gt;
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==Meeting adjourned==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Adjourned 15:20.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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