Table saw (SawStop) ID:172 - Revision history

Michael.fiss: showcase tool

2024-08-07T20:18:05Z

showcase tool

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:18, 7 August 2024
Line 110:		Line 110:

	2024-03-07: Dado cartridge activation on paddle-pull, [https://forum.protospace.ca/t/sawstop-brake-cartridge-activation-but-also-not-dado-edition/6008 as discussed here].		2024-03-07: Dado cartridge activation on paddle-pull, [https://forum.protospace.ca/t/sawstop-brake-cartridge-activation-but-also-not-dado-edition/6008 as discussed here].
			[[Category:Woodworking tools]]
			[[Category:Showcase tools]]

David.sandbrand: added links to local retaillers, and updated the expected cost

2024-04-13T16:16:50Z

added links to local retaillers, and updated the expected cost

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:16, 13 April 2024
Line 25:		Line 25:
	SawStop recommends a blade size of 8" or 10", plus or minus 1/16", with a kerf between 3/32" and 3/16". IF A blade not exactly 8" or 10" (perhaps due to repeated sharpening), and the clamping cartridge cannot be adjusted properly, the safety system may take longer to clamp down in case of "triggering", not allow the saw to start, or if the blade is oversize, may cause immediate triggering, failure to start or maybe other problems. Blades with coated teeth are also not recommended as they can inhibit the safety system.		SawStop recommends a blade size of 8" or 10", plus or minus 1/16", with a kerf between 3/32" and 3/16". IF A blade not exactly 8" or 10" (perhaps due to repeated sharpening), and the clamping cartridge cannot be adjusted properly, the safety system may take longer to clamp down in case of "triggering", not allow the saw to start, or if the blade is oversize, may cause immediate triggering, failure to start or maybe other problems. Blades with coated teeth are also not recommended as they can inhibit the safety system.

	~~Accidentally triggering~~ the safety feature will result in a cost of around $~~130~~ to replace the cartridge, and $80-120 to replace the blade, costs which will be the responsibility of the member.		Triggering the safety feature will result in a cost of around $146 (standard) to $177 (dado) [as of April 2024] to replace the cartridge, and $80-120 to replace the blade, costs which will be the responsibility of the member. See below for links to local retailers

	Requirements for using this are evolving, and as this is not your typical table saw, so you have to do your due diligence and read and understand how it operates.		Requirements for using this are evolving, and as this is not your typical table saw, so you have to do your due diligence and read and understand how it operates.

	Wet lumber, metal particles, including staples can trigger it. So members will have to take an upgrade certification to be able to use your card to operate it!		Wet lumber, metal particles, including staples can trigger it. So members will have to take an upgrade certification to be able to use your card to operate it!

			==Replacement Cartridges==
			These are the local retailers that sell replacement cartridges, as of April 2024

			* For standard 10" blades
			** https://blackforestwood.com/products/table-saw-brake-cartridge-for-10-blades-1
			** https://www.busybeetools.com/products/brake-cartridge-for-10in-blades-saw-stop.html
			** https://www.canadianwoodworker.com/product/sawstop-brake-cartridge-new-design/
			** https://www.kmstools.com/saw-tsbc10r3.html
			** https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/power-tool-accessories/safety/114682-sawstop-brake-cartridge?item=95T0603

			* For 8" dado blades
			** https://blackforestwood.com/products/copy-of-table-saw-dado-cartidge-for-8-dado-sets-r2
			** https://www.busybeetools.com/products/sawstop-brake-cartridge-8in-dado-blades.html
			** https://www.canadianwoodworker.com/product/sawstop-brake-cartridge-for-dados-new-design/
			** https://www.kmstools.com/sawstop-table-saw-brake-cartridge-for-8-dado-sets.html
			** https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/power-tool-accessories/safety/114682-sawstop-brake-cartridge?item=95T0613


	==Troubleshooting==		==Troubleshooting==
Line 91:		Line 109:
	2023-12-10: Triggered on metallic angle cutting jig. No flesh was involved.		2023-12-10: Triggered on metallic angle cutting jig. No flesh was involved.

	2024-03-07: Dado cartridge activation on paddle-pull, [https://forum.protospace.ca/t/sawstop-brake-cartridge-activation-but-also-not-dado-edition/6008 as discussed here]~~. Cartridge being returned for analysis~~.		2024-03-07: Dado cartridge activation on paddle-pull, [https://forum.protospace.ca/t/sawstop-brake-cartridge-activation-but-also-not-dado-edition/6008 as discussed here].

David.sandbrand: noted that the saw actually has no serial #

2024-04-13T15:53:23Z

noted that the saw actually has no serial #

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:53, 13 April 2024
Line 2:		Line 2:
	\| toolname = Table saw		\| toolname = Table saw
	\| model = PCS31230		\| model = PCS31230
	\| serial = ?		\| serial = None (?!)
	\| owner = Protospace		\| owner = Protospace
	\| loanstatus = n/a		\| loanstatus = n/a

Alfred.forbrich: Added Dado Nut description and location

2024-04-07T23:57:48Z

Added Dado Nut description and location

← Older revision		Revision as of 23:57, 7 April 2024
Line 25:		Line 25:
	SawStop recommends a blade size of 8" or 10", plus or minus 1/16", with a kerf between 3/32" and 3/16". IF A blade not exactly 8" or 10" (perhaps due to repeated sharpening), and the clamping cartridge cannot be adjusted properly, the safety system may take longer to clamp down in case of "triggering", not allow the saw to start, or if the blade is oversize, may cause immediate triggering, failure to start or maybe other problems. Blades with coated teeth are also not recommended as they can inhibit the safety system.		SawStop recommends a blade size of 8" or 10", plus or minus 1/16", with a kerf between 3/32" and 3/16". IF A blade not exactly 8" or 10" (perhaps due to repeated sharpening), and the clamping cartridge cannot be adjusted properly, the safety system may take longer to clamp down in case of "triggering", not allow the saw to start, or if the blade is oversize, may cause immediate triggering, failure to start or maybe other problems. Blades with coated teeth are also not recommended as they can inhibit the safety system.

	Accidentally triggering the safety feature will result in a cost of around $~~135~~ to replace the cartridge, and $80-120 to replace the blade, costs which will be the responsibility of the member.		Accidentally triggering the safety feature will result in a cost of around $130 to replace the cartridge, and $80-120 to replace the blade, costs which will be the responsibility of the member.

	Requirements for using this are evolving, and as this is not your typical table saw, so you have to do your due diligence and read and understand how it operates.		Requirements for using this are evolving, and as this is not your typical table saw, so you have to do your due diligence and read and understand how it operates.
Line 74:		Line 74:

	Dado stack sets that have full-diameter chippers are not supported, as told by Sawstop support. Use of these, even with everything properly setup, can result in the arbor being bent at the time of cartridge activation due to the significant kinetic energy & inertia resulting from the even-more-than-normal mass of this type of dado blade. Only 2-tooth 'rectangular' chippers are supported by the dado brake cartridge.		Dado stack sets that have full-diameter chippers are not supported, as told by Sawstop support. Use of these, even with everything properly setup, can result in the arbor being bent at the time of cartridge activation due to the significant kinetic energy & inertia resulting from the even-more-than-normal mass of this type of dado blade. Only 2-tooth 'rectangular' chippers are supported by the dado brake cartridge.

			'''Dado-Nut'''

			The Dado maximum width given by SawStop is 29/32". If using a full Dado stack with the OEM Arbor Washer and Arbor Nut, the Arbor Nut may extend slightly, 1 or 2 threads beyond the end of the Arbor. While there is enough thread within the Arbor Nut on the Arbor to keep the full Dado stack secure and the direction of rotation of the blade when cutting will not loosen the Arbor Nut, there is an alternative to the OEM Arbor Washer and Arbor Nut available to get full thread engagement, the Woodpeckers Dado Nut. The Woodpeckers Dado Nut can be found in the bag with the SawStop manual attached to the front of the SawStop.



Line 81:		Line 86:
	*Bypass Mode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaA5GA61MH0		*Bypass Mode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaA5GA61MH0
	*FAQ - https://www.sawstop.com/why-sawstop/faqs/		*FAQ - https://www.sawstop.com/why-sawstop/faqs/
			*Woodpeckers Dado Nut https://www.woodpeck.com/dado-nut-sawstop.html

	==History==		==History==

David.sandbrand: Added details about removing an activated cartridge, and also a warnign of certain types of dado blades that will damage the saw if activated.

2024-03-08T20:55:32Z

Added details about removing an activated cartridge, and also a warnign of certain types of dado blades that will damage the saw if activated.

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:55, 8 March 2024
Line 4:		Line 4:
	\| serial = ?		\| serial = ?
	\| owner = Protospace		\| owner = Protospace
	\| loanstatus = ?		\| loanstatus = n/a
	\| arrived = ?		\| arrived = Jan 2023, installed Jul 2023
	\| location = Wood shop		\| location = Wood shop
	\| status = Working		\| status = Working
Line 23:		Line 23:
	Size of blade is critical.		Size of blade is critical.

	SawStop recommends a blade size of 10", plus or minus 1/16", with a kerf between 3/32" and 3/16". IF A blade not exactly 10" (perhaps due to repeated sharpening), and the clamping cartridge cannot be adjusted properly, the safety system may take longer to clamp down in case of "triggering", not allow the saw to start, or if the blade is oversize, may cause immediate triggering, failure to start or maybe other problems. Blades with coated teeth are also not recommended as they can inhibit the safety system.		SawStop recommends a blade size of 8" or 10", plus or minus 1/16", with a kerf between 3/32" and 3/16". IF A blade not exactly 8" or 10" (perhaps due to repeated sharpening), and the clamping cartridge cannot be adjusted properly, the safety system may take longer to clamp down in case of "triggering", not allow the saw to start, or if the blade is oversize, may cause immediate triggering, failure to start or maybe other problems. Blades with coated teeth are also not recommended as they can inhibit the safety system.

	Accidentally triggering the safety feature will result in a cost of around $135 to replace the cartridge, and $80-120 to replace the blade, costs which will be the responsibility of the member.		Accidentally triggering the safety feature will result in a cost of around $135 to replace the cartridge, and $80-120 to replace the blade, costs which will be the responsibility of the member.
Line 59:		Line 59:
	*Re-engage control wheel and turn all the way to 45'''°'''		*Re-engage control wheel and turn all the way to 45'''°'''
	*Reinstall bushing and collar on shaft [[Media:Sawstop-bushing-collar-installed.jpg\|like this photo]], tighten set screw		*Reinstall bushing and collar on shaft [[Media:Sawstop-bushing-collar-installed.jpg\|like this photo]], tighten set screw


			'''Removing an activated brake cartridge'''

			The cartridge & blade are likely to be fused together, which requires both pieces being removed together.

			*First, lower the blade as far as it will go. This should trigger the cartridge release.
			*Raise the blade as high as it will go
			*Remove the red locking handle
			*If the blade & cartridge will not easily slide out, use a Sawstop wrench to pry it out.


			'''Dado blades'''

			Dado stack sets that have full-diameter chippers are not supported, as told by Sawstop support. Use of these, even with everything properly setup, can result in the arbor being bent at the time of cartridge activation due to the significant kinetic energy & inertia resulting from the even-more-than-normal mass of this type of dado blade. Only 2-tooth 'rectangular' chippers are supported by the dado brake cartridge.


	==Resources==		==Resources==

David.sandbrand: Added history of dado cartridge activation on paddle-pull.

2024-03-08T20:40:02Z

Added history of dado cartridge activation on paddle-pull.

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:40, 8 March 2024
Line 62:		Line 62:
	==Resources==		==Resources==

	* Users Manual - https://www.sawstop.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Owners-Manual-Professional-Cabinet-Saw-300-1.pdf		*Users Manual - https://www.sawstop.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Owners-Manual-Professional-Cabinet-Saw-300-1.pdf
	* Bypass Mode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaA5GA61MH0		*Bypass Mode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaA5GA61MH0
	* FAQ - https://www.sawstop.com/why-sawstop/faqs/		*FAQ - https://www.sawstop.com/why-sawstop/faqs/

	==History==		==History==
	2023-12-10: Triggered on metallic angle cutting jig. No flesh was involved.		2023-12-10: Triggered on metallic angle cutting jig. No flesh was involved.

			2024-03-07: Dado cartridge activation on paddle-pull, [https://forum.protospace.ca/t/sawstop-brake-cartridge-activation-but-also-not-dado-edition/6008 as discussed here]. Cartridge being returned for analysis.

Jordan.loehr: Added info about blade kerf and coatings, and added links to some additional resources (manual, youtube videos)

2024-01-02T03:39:46Z

Added info about blade kerf and coatings, and added links to some additional resources (manual, youtube videos)

← Older revision		Revision as of 03:39, 2 January 2024
Line 21:		Line 21:

	==Usage==		==Usage==
	Size of blade is critical.		Size of blade is critical.

	~~Sawstop~~ recommends a blade size of 10", plus or minus 1/16". A blade ~~may be smaller than this this~~ due to repeated ~~sharpenings~~, and the clamping cartridge cannot be adjusted properly, ~~and that will either~~ take longer to clamp down in case of "triggering", not allow the saw to start, or if the blade is oversize, may cause immediate triggering, failure to start or maybe other problems.		SawStop recommends a blade size of 10", plus or minus 1/16", with a kerf between 3/32" and 3/16". IF A blade not exactly 10" (perhaps due to repeated sharpening), and the clamping cartridge cannot be adjusted properly, the safety system may take longer to clamp down in case of "triggering", not allow the saw to start, or if the blade is oversize, may cause immediate triggering, failure to start or maybe other problems. Blades with coated teeth are also not recommended as they can inhibit the safety system.

	Accidentally triggering the safety feature will result in a cost of around $135 to replace the cartridge, and $80-120 to replace the blade, costs which will be the responsibility of the member.		Accidentally triggering the safety feature will result in a cost of around $135 to replace the cartridge, and $80-120 to replace the blade, costs which will be the responsibility of the member.
Line 54:		Line 54:
	The tilt control wheel can become loose or disconnected if an internal collar falls off.		The tilt control wheel can become loose or disconnected if an internal collar falls off.

	* Open / remove the side access panel (see above)		*Open / remove the side access panel (see above)
	* Find both the [[Media:Sawstop-bushing-collar.jpg\|bushing and collar]]		*Find both the [[Media:Sawstop-bushing-collar.jpg\|bushing and collar]]
	* Grab a 3 mm hex driver (yellow T-handled ones can be found near metal lathe)		*Grab a 3 mm hex driver (yellow T-handled ones can be found near metal lathe)
	* Re-engage control wheel and turn all the way to 45'''°'''		*Re-engage control wheel and turn all the way to 45'''°'''
	* Reinstall bushing and collar on shaft [[Media:Sawstop-bushing-collar-installed.jpg\|like this photo]], tighten set screw		*Reinstall bushing and collar on shaft [[Media:Sawstop-bushing-collar-installed.jpg\|like this photo]], tighten set screw

	==~~Documentation~~==		==Resources==
	~~TBD~~

	~~<br~~ />		* Users Manual - https://www.sawstop.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Owners-Manual-Professional-Cabinet-Saw-300-1.pdf
			* Bypass Mode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaA5GA61MH0
			* FAQ - https://www.sawstop.com/why-sawstop/faqs/

	==History==		==History==
	2023-12-10: Triggered on metallic angle cutting jig. No flesh was involved.		2023-12-10: Triggered on metallic angle cutting jig. No flesh was involved.

Tanner.collin: Add troubleshooting instructions for tilt control

2023-12-11T01:13:18Z

Add troubleshooting instructions for tilt control

← Older revision		Revision as of 01:13, 11 December 2023
Line 45:		Line 45:

	If the riving knife is truly misaligned, follow [https://thenewbiewoodworker.com/2019/06/12/adjusting-and-aligning-the-riving-knife.html this procedure].		If the riving knife is truly misaligned, follow [https://thenewbiewoodworker.com/2019/06/12/adjusting-and-aligning-the-riving-knife.html this procedure].

			'''How to remove the side access panel'''

			Since the side access panel doesn't open all the way, you can just remove it by pulling out the metal pin downward.

			'''Tilt control is lost / loose'''

			The tilt control wheel can become loose or disconnected if an internal collar falls off.

			* Open / remove the side access panel (see above)
			* Find both the [[Media:Sawstop-bushing-collar.jpg\|bushing and collar]]
			* Grab a 3 mm hex driver (yellow T-handled ones can be found near metal lathe)
			* Re-engage control wheel and turn all the way to 45'''°'''
			* Reinstall bushing and collar on shaft [[Media:Sawstop-bushing-collar-installed.jpg\|like this photo]], tighten set screw

	==Documentation==		==Documentation==

Tanner.collin at 18:16, 10 December 2023

2023-12-10T18:16:47Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 18:16, 10 December 2023
Line 51:		Line 51:
	<br />		<br />

	== History ==		==History==
	2023-12-10: Triggered on angle cutting jig.		2023-12-10: Triggered on metallic angle cutting jig. No flesh was involved.

Tanner.collin: added first trigger

2023-12-10T18:14:06Z

added first trigger

← Older revision		Revision as of 18:14, 10 December 2023
Line 34:		Line 34:
	'''Saw won't turn on'''		'''Saw won't turn on'''

	* Ensure it's plugged into the wall (cord is labelled)		*Ensure it's plugged into the wall (cord is labelled)
	* Ensure you've authorized with the lockout and the green LED is on		*Ensure you've authorized with the lockout and the green LED is on
	* Wait until the red LED on the SawStop has stopped blinking, then pull the paddle		*Wait until the red LED on the SawStop has stopped blinking, then pull the paddle

	'''Riving knife is misaligned'''		'''Riving knife is misaligned'''
Line 48:		Line 48:
	==Documentation==		==Documentation==
	TBD		TBD

			<br />

			== History ==
			2023-12-10: Triggered on angle cutting jig.